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[Matplotlib-users] zorder taking an array
Simon Walker
2015-06-23 09:44:08 UTC
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When multiple datasets are plotted on the same axis, the points overlay each other making it hard to see the points under the most recent ones. One way to avoid this is to give each point a random zorder, randomising its position in the z axis. This way, points from the first dataset may overly points from the last dataset.

This could be achieved nicely if the zorder keyword took an array so the random zorder values per point can be pre-computed, but currently it only accepts a single number for the whole dataset. Would this be a useful feature for others to have? How difficult would it be to implement?

Thanks,

Simon Walker
Benjamin Root
2015-06-23 16:44:30 UTC
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I see what you are getting at. The issue is that artists are first sorted
by the zorder and then drawn one at a time. The draw for a collection
artist is an at-once operation, it can't (currently) be split out and
interspersed with the draws from another artist. This is one of the major
limitations for mplot3d, as it would be nice to compose a 3d scene properly
so that everything is logically consistent.

I have actually been working on some changes that would allow one to sort
the draws of individual elements of a collection, but I still haven't
figured out a way to "break out" the elements with other collection
elements in a way that doesn't break the current design or introduce major
performance penalties. Maybe I'll figure something out during SciPy2015.

Cheers!
Ben Root
Post by Simon Walker
When multiple datasets are plotted on the same axis, the points overlay
each other making it hard to see the points under the most recent ones. One
way to avoid this is to give each point a random zorder, randomising its
position in the z axis. This way, points from the first dataset may overly
points from the last dataset.
This could be achieved nicely if the zorder keyword took an array so the
random zorder values per point can be pre-computed, but currently it only
accepts a single number for the whole dataset. Would this be a useful
feature for others to have? How difficult would it be to implement?
Thanks,
Simon Walker
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Jody Klymak
2015-06-23 17:53:07 UTC
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For my backend (nbagg), the order of the data determines the order of drawing. So in the following, the third diamond covers the first two in the first plot, but the first diamond covers them all in the second plot. Perhaps not as elegant as a matrix zorder, but can achieve the effect you are after.

Cheers, Jody

fig, ax = plt.subplots(2,1)
x = np.arange(3)
y = 0.*x
ax[0].plot(x,y,'d',markersize=52)
ax[0].set_xlim(-10.,10.)
ax[1].plot(x[[2,1,0]],y[[2,1,0]],'d',markersize=52)
ax[1].set_xlim(-10.,10.)
I see what you are getting at. The issue is that artists are first sorted by the zorder and then drawn one at a time. The draw for a collection artist is an at-once operation, it can't (currently) be split out and interspersed with the draws from another artist. This is one of the major limitations for mplot3d, as it would be nice to compose a 3d scene properly so that everything is logically consistent.
I have actually been working on some changes that would allow one to sort the draws of individual elements of a collection, but I still haven't figured out a way to "break out" the elements with other collection elements in a way that doesn't break the current design or introduce major performance penalties. Maybe I'll figure something out during SciPy2015.
Cheers!
Ben Root
When multiple datasets are plotted on the same axis, the points overlay each other making it hard to see the points under the most recent ones. One way to avoid this is to give each point a random zorder, randomising its position in the z axis. This way, points from the first dataset may overly points from the last dataset.
This could be achieved nicely if the zorder keyword took an array so the random zorder values per point can be pre-computed, but currently it only accepts a single number for the whole dataset. Would this be a useful feature for others to have? How difficult would it be to implement?
Thanks,
Simon Walker
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Benjamin Root
2015-06-23 18:15:34 UTC
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Right, when zorder is not explicitly specified, all the artists of the same
type get the same default zorder (I think 2, but I can't remember). We then
use a stable sort to determine the draw order, so two artists with the same
zorder are drawn in the order that they were created (the exception being
mplot3d, because it mucks about with zorders to achieve the 3d effect).

Ben Root
Post by Jody Klymak
For my backend (nbagg), the order of the data determines the order of
drawing. So in the following, the third diamond covers the first two in
the first plot, but the first diamond covers them all in the second plot.
Perhaps not as elegant as a matrix zorder, but can achieve the effect you
are after.
Cheers, Jody
fig, ax = plt.subplots(2,1)
x = np.arange(3)
y = 0.*x
ax[0].plot(x,y,'d',markersize=52)
ax[0].set_xlim(-10.,10.)
ax[1].plot(x[[2,1,0]],y[[2,1,0]],'d',markersize=52)
ax[1].set_xlim(-10.,10.)
I see what you are getting at. The issue is that artists are first sorted
by the zorder and then drawn one at a time. The draw for a collection
artist is an at-once operation, it can't (currently) be split out and
interspersed with the draws from another artist. This is one of the major
limitations for mplot3d, as it would be nice to compose a 3d scene properly
so that everything is logically consistent.
I have actually been working on some changes that would allow one to sort
the draws of individual elements of a collection, but I still haven't
figured out a way to "break out" the elements with other collection
elements in a way that doesn't break the current design or introduce major
performance penalties. Maybe I'll figure something out during SciPy2015.
Cheers!
Ben Root
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:44 AM, Simon Walker <
Post by Simon Walker
When multiple datasets are plotted on the same axis, the points overlay
each other making it hard to see the points under the most recent ones. One
way to avoid this is to give each point a random zorder, randomising its
position in the z axis. This way, points from the first dataset may overly
points from the last dataset.
This could be achieved nicely if the zorder keyword took an array so the
random zorder values per point can be pre-computed, but currently it only
accepts a single number for the whole dataset. Would this be a useful
feature for others to have? How difficult would it be to implement?
Thanks,
Simon Walker
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Thomas Caswell
2015-06-23 19:56:21 UTC
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One thing you can do which may work is to partition your plots 'by hand'.

It is not super elegant, but might get you the desired behavior. As long
as the number of partitions is low it shouldn't hurt performance _too_ much.

def z_jitter_plot(ax, x, y, partitions=10, **kwargs):
labels = np.random.randint(0, partitions, len(y))
z_levels = 1 + np.random.rand(partitions)
lns = []
for n, z in enumerate(z_levels):
ln = ax.plot(x[labels==n], y[labels==n], zorder=z, **kwargs)
lns.extend(ln)

return lns


fig, ax = plt.subplots()
N = 2500
all_lns = []
for j, c in enumerate('rgbk'):
x = np.linspace(0, 1, N)
y = np.random.randn(N)
lns = z_jitter_plot(ax, x, y, partitions=100, color=c, ls='',
markersize=52, marker='o')
all_lns.extend(lns)

Throwing in `alpha=.5` might also help a bit.

You will have to manage the color cycle your self here as this plots many
lines (each of which wants to advance the color cycle) per data set.

Tom
Post by Benjamin Root
Right, when zorder is not explicitly specified, all the artists of the
same type get the same default zorder (I think 2, but I can't remember). We
then use a stable sort to determine the draw order, so two artists with the
same zorder are drawn in the order that they were created (the exception
being mplot3d, because it mucks about with zorders to achieve the 3d
effect).
Ben Root
Post by Jody Klymak
For my backend (nbagg), the order of the data determines the order of
drawing. So in the following, the third diamond covers the first two in
the first plot, but the first diamond covers them all in the second plot.
Perhaps not as elegant as a matrix zorder, but can achieve the effect you
are after.
Cheers, Jody
fig, ax = plt.subplots(2,1)
x = np.arange(3)
y = 0.*x
ax[0].plot(x,y,'d',markersize=52)
ax[0].set_xlim(-10.,10.)
ax[1].plot(x[[2,1,0]],y[[2,1,0]],'d',markersize=52)
ax[1].set_xlim(-10.,10.)
I see what you are getting at. The issue is that artists are first sorted
by the zorder and then drawn one at a time. The draw for a collection
artist is an at-once operation, it can't (currently) be split out and
interspersed with the draws from another artist. This is one of the major
limitations for mplot3d, as it would be nice to compose a 3d scene properly
so that everything is logically consistent.
I have actually been working on some changes that would allow one to sort
the draws of individual elements of a collection, but I still haven't
figured out a way to "break out" the elements with other collection
elements in a way that doesn't break the current design or introduce major
performance penalties. Maybe I'll figure something out during SciPy2015.
Cheers!
Ben Root
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:44 AM, Simon Walker <
Post by Simon Walker
When multiple datasets are plotted on the same axis, the points overlay
each other making it hard to see the points under the most recent ones. One
way to avoid this is to give each point a random zorder, randomising its
position in the z axis. This way, points from the first dataset may overly
points from the last dataset.
This could be achieved nicely if the zorder keyword took an array so the
random zorder values per point can be pre-computed, but currently it only
accepts a single number for the whole dataset. Would this be a useful
feature for others to have? How difficult would it be to implement?
Thanks,
Simon Walker
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